RSS Chief presents benign, modern image of Sangh
New Delhi, Aug 28: Projecting a benign and modern image of RSS, its chief Mohan Bhagwat on Thursday said Islam will always have a place in India as he dismissed speculation about a rift with the BJP while asserting that Akhand Bharat is an immutable reality.
Bhagwat asserted he had never stated that he would retire or someone else should retire at 75, while calling upon all Indians to know at least three languages, and having maximum of three children.
In a question-answer session lasting two-and-a-half hours, Bhagwat responded to questions ranging from Manusmriti to Artificial Intelligence(AI), tariffs to caste, education, patriotism, national language, partition, illegal immigration, attacks on Muslims, and most importantly, age of retirement for politicians.
“I never said that I or someone else should retire at 75,” Bhagwat said here, putting at rest speculation that he had suggested that Prime Minister Narendra Modi and he himself should retire when they turn 75 this September.
On the issue of retiring at 75 years, Bhagwat said he had quoted late RSS leader Moropant Pingle in Nagpur recently while highlighting his witticism.
“He was so witty that his witticism made you bounce in your chair…Once in our programme, we all were there all-India karyakartas and he (Pingle) completed his 75 years. So he was given a shawl and was asked to say something…he stood up and said that ‘you might be thinking that you have felicitated me but I know when this shawl is given it means you sit in a chair calmly and see what happens’,” Bhagwat said. Pingle was felicitated with a shawl on attaining the age of 75 years.
The RSS chief clarified that his reference to 75 years was not directed at any leader’s retirement.
“So this is not for the retirement of anybody or for myself. We are ready to retire anytime in life. And, we are ready to work as long as Sangh wants us to work,” he said.
“I never said that I will retire or someone else should retire.”
The RSS chief said in the Sangh, swayamsewaks are given a job, whether they want it or not, and they have to do it.
“I am eighty years old and the Sangh will ask me to go run a Shakha. I will have to go. I cannot say I have completed 75 years and I want to enjoy the retirement benefits. There are no benefits in Sangh,” he said
Bhagwat also said there are many people in the RSS who can be its chief.
“I am Sarsanghchalak. Do you think I am the only one who can be Sarsanghchalak? There are at least ten people sitting in this hall. Anytime they can take this mantle and carry on,” he added.
“But, they are very busy. And their contributions are valuable. They cannot be spared. I was the one who can be spared,” Bhagwat said in a lighter vein.
He also said the Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh (RSS) knows how to run ‘shakhas’ and BJP knows how to run the government and they only give suggestions to each other.
Amid calls for running Ayodhya-like movement for Kashi and Mathura, Bhagwat said the Ram Temple was the only movement RSS got involved in and took it to its conclusion and it will not join any other movement.
“However, Kashi, Mathura and Ayodhya are important to Hindus and if they request, our volunteers can join their movements,” Bhagwat told the audience at the centenary celebrations of the RSS at the Vigyan Bhawan here.
“Besides these three, I have said there is no need to search for a temple or Shivling everywhere. At the same time, why can’t it happen? It is a matter of only three, you (Hindus) can take it. This will be a big step towards harmony,” he said.
On the ongoing US-India standoff over the whopping 50 per cent tariffs on Indian imports, Bhagwat said international trade was essential, but there can be no friendship under pressure.
“We don’t tell the government how to deal with Trump; they know what to do and we will support it,” he said, underscoring that RSS believed in swadeshi and self-reliance.
Bhagwat also sought to set the record straight on its participation in the freedom movement and its opposition to the partition of India.
“It is wrong to say that the RSS did not protest against Partition. The Sangh had protested against it, but what power did the Sangh have at the time, the entire nation was following Mahatma Gandhi,” he said.
The RSS chief also said swayamsevaks had actively participated in the freedom struggle and cited examples of the Sangh helping freedom fighters in their endeavours. On the principle of Akhand Bharat, Bhagwat said it was a fact of life.
“Keeping Akhand Bharat in mind is not only a political matter because when Akhand Bharat existed, there were many rulers here, even then a ruler needed permission to enter or travel,” he added.
Bhagwat said the RSS fully supports Constitutionally-mandated reservation policies and will support them till the time it is required.
On the caste system, the RSS chief said whatever is outdated is bound to go.
“The caste system was there once, but has no relevance today. Caste is no longer a system; it is outdated, and it has to go.
“There is a need for evaluation of an exploitation-free and egalitarian system. While the outdated system goes, it should be seen that it does not have a destructive effect on society,” he said.
Bhagwat said even the RSS was moving towards adopting AI, after studying its pros and cons.
He said he has been told AI can be used to write poetry, but wondered “it can learn languages, but can it understand emotions.”
Bhagwat also rejected as “completely wrong” a common perception that his organisation decides “everything” for the BJP, saying suggestions are given to the party but decisions are taken by it.
He asserted that the RSS has no role in selection of a new chief of the BJP.
Bhagwat emphatically said there are no differences between the RSS and the BJP government, both at the Centre and the states ruled by the party.
“It’s completely wrong,“ the RSS chief said, responding to a question that Sangh decides everything for the BJP including selection of its president. J P Nadda, who is also a central minister, is the current chief.
“We don’t decide. If we were deciding, would it have taken so long. We don’t do (decide). We don’t have to. Take your time. We don’t have to say anything,” he said, drawing a huge applause from the audience.
